tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post1520331319011338161..comments2024-01-28T23:00:12.101-05:00Comments on Sponsa Christi: How Do I Make a Private Vow?Sponsa Christihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07520407168481380210noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post-89530443127383591432013-05-24T14:06:43.656-04:002013-05-24T14:06:43.656-04:00sorry ,but I write in german:
ich habe auch vor,ei...sorry ,but I write in german:<br />ich habe auch vor,ein privatgelübde abzulegen,denn es ist ein mehr an liebe zu Christus und eine stärkere Anbindung an die kirche. ich möchte es in die Hand meines bischofs ablegen und danke für die gute seite,liebe sponsa christi. virgo consecrata und PG sind wie zwei Schwestern oder zwei flügel eines vogels....zwei sich ergänzende Berufungen innerhalb der gesamtkirche. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post-47135741309976309452012-12-27T21:33:35.107-05:002012-12-27T21:33:35.107-05:00We Dominicans stress the consecratory nature of pr...We Dominicans stress the consecratory nature of profession. We never even say the word vow. Within our profession of obedience are the 3 vows but it is a profession to live a whole way of life. Dominicans don't have the tradition of the Consecratory prayer as following St. Thomas we see the consecration happening as we make profession. Until 1999 we had to use the Roman rite of profession until ours was approved and now that it is approved we don't use the prayer of consecration as beautiful as both options are.<br /><br />Because it is a consecration Dominicans teach that while the Church has the right to dispense with the obligations of the vows (St. Thomas didn't believe one could be dispensed from perpetual continency) one's consecration can't be undone. It is a total and complete holocaust. <br /><br />It's good that you point out that the consecration of virgins is not making vows which again points out that is IS different from a marriage to another person. I think often people, even consecrated virgins, think of it as analogous. <br /><br />For this reason Dominicans (friars and nuns) don't have a tradition of "renewing vows" yearly or even at jubilees because the consecratory nature means that it is a dynamic ongoing reality. It's not something that happened in the past but something that is ongoing. Monialeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09033902695799768919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post-85319181912275111432011-03-10T11:21:14.915-05:002011-03-10T11:21:14.915-05:00Thanks for the link!
I have to admit that I did w...Thanks for the link!<br /><br />I have to admit that I did wonder about the renewing of my vow each year - this is, however, on the advice of my SD, who thinks that it's good to witness in this way to the vocation of vowed single life. It happens to coincide with our Parish Missa Cantata as well, and so I open up the party to anyone who's attending that Mass - we'd normally have a bit of a celebration after the Missa Cantata anyway.Mulier Fortishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01186202810919174492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post-26090574246757011592011-02-27T00:41:50.024-05:002011-02-27T00:41:50.024-05:00I am very open to making a private vow at some poi...I am very open to making a private vow at some point in my life, as right now I see a lot of value in my academic work and my relationship with God. I cannot get enough of Jesus. He is the only One who makes me happy deep down. But how do you know that this is God's will and not just a desire? The desire to belong only to God is good in itself, and I think that evangelizing a la St. Francis of Assissi ("Preach the gospel. If necessary, use words.")in my academic and social life is doing God's work, even if it's very very subtle, but I really want to know if that's what He wants. I am concerned because I have always liked being single and have done so for the most part because I study a demanding subject and I would not be at all surprised if this preference influenced my desire.Hannahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post-66215668510833292132011-02-21T17:43:17.085-05:002011-02-21T17:43:17.085-05:00Thank You for answering my question on how to make...Thank You for answering my question on how to make a Private Vow.<br /><br />I have a couple more questiions.<br /><br />In making a temporary vow, do I write the temporary vow out using the words I am making this temporary vow of virginity and the reason why ie until I become a consecrated virgin and if renewing the vow to then say I will renew this vow next year if not yet a consecrated virgin?<br /><br />Does a Private vow have to be made in front of a witness in order for it to be a valid vow. Could I have the written vow approved by the SD and pray the vow in front of Jesus Exposed in the Blessed Sacrament with no human witnesses to make it truly private.<br /><br />God Bless You<br />KarenKarennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post-13739450668163619352011-02-15T11:47:33.449-05:002011-02-15T11:47:33.449-05:00Shana:
Jesus certainly is the best Valentine!
M...Shana:<br /><br />Jesus certainly is the best Valentine! <br /><br />My own thought is that women who feel called to live as privately-vowed laypeople should probably err on the side of being discreet about their commitment. Mainly, this is because I think it’s important not to confuse the faithful, and someone who was very open about making a private vow could easily tend to give the impression that she was in some sort of canonical state of consecrated life. <br /><br />However, I think a lot would depend on the individual woman, her circle of friends and co-workers, and the particular situation at hand. Unlike the policy of some secular institutes (which, by the way, are basically organizations of laypeople who make private vows), I don’t think that a woman who makes a private vow on her own should feel quite as strictly obliged to keep her vocation to her self.<br /><br />When discussing private vows as a vocational option, it’s really crucial to understand that private vow are NOT the same thing as a recognized state of consecrated life. This means that there is no “charism” of private vows as a general category, since every woman who makes a private vow is simply making a personal, individual response to a personal, individual experience of God’s love. As I said in an earlier post, there can be as many ways to live a privately-vowed life as there are women who choose to make private vows.<br /><br />If a privately-vowed women feels called to tell her family and friend about her commitment, that’s perfectly fine. If she doesn’t want anyone to know other than her spiritual director, then that’s equally acceptable. Unlike those in public states of consecrated life—who have, by virtue of their vocation, an obligation to the wider Church to be a visible Christian witness—those in private vows have no obligations other than the moral obligation of fulfilling the specific matter of their vow. <br /><br />If someone asked me, I would say that a young woman who feels called to shout her exclusive love of Christ “from the housetops” is probably called to a public state of consecrated life. But it’s never really possible to discern vocations in the abstract, and once again, a lot would depend on the woman herself. <br /><br />As a side note, I don’t think I agree with everything “Mulier Fortis” writes or does regarding her private vow (although naturally I would hate to criticize someone I’ve never met!). Still, I linked her blog because I think she’s a great example of someone who recognized that she was called to private vows, and actively accepted this in a positive way as God’s will for her. <br /><br />And I’m glad that there is someone like her writing a blog, because (in my opinion) there are a lot of problems which have resulted from situations where women who were probably called simply to make private vows wound up requesting and receiving the Rite of Consecration, due to a mistaken impression that the Rite was somehow necessary to make their commitment to Christ “real.” I think that “Mulier Fortis” shows that a private vow can be a true response to God’s call and a defining life commitment.Sponsa Christihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07520407168481380210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3984186295935598389.post-16562711075717906162011-02-14T17:26:30.789-05:002011-02-14T17:26:30.789-05:00I have a related question which we could discuss l...I have a related question which we could discuss later personally but I thought I might as well post it here. And you may not really have a formed opinion on this or know how to respond anyways.<br /><br />OK, so my question is, what do you think the appropriate charism is for a woman in private vows as far as how open they are to others about their spousal relationship with Jesus? I guess it could differ from woman to woman. Do you think it would be somewhere between a woman in a secular institute and a woman in a public form of consecrated life (i.e. consecrated virginity or religious life)? What do you think it would look like in relation to these two vocations? <br /><br />Speaking personally, I'm not even under private vows, temporary or permanent, at the moment yet in certain circles I am very open about how I am in love with Jesus that I believe He wants my total and exclusive love (i.e. to forsake marriage to an earthly spouse. On the other hand while in other circles and situations I won't hide it if someone presses me yet I don't broadcast it as much (I think this is mostly to give me some measure of privacy in my discernment...not to build up an audience in such a way where I'd feel pressured to fulfill certain expectations. I'm guessing if I were to discern that my vocation was to make private vows I'd be more apt to be more open about my exclusive love for Christ in all situations. <br /><br />I guess what I'm asking is would a woman's inclination, in your opinion, to be over the top open and broadcasting unabashedly her exclusive love for Christ from the mountaintops, be an indactor that she's not called to make private vows but rather to a public form of consecrated life or would it be a more neutral factor? It seems as if the woman who's blog you linked to is very open about her exclusive relationship with Christ but that other women who make private vows might feel called to be more discreet about it and I guess this is what throws me off a bit.<br /><br />I know you recently wrote a post on discerning consecrated virginity vs. private vows and you sort of touched on this I think in saying that different women live out private vows in different ways but I'd be interested in hearing a bit of an elaboration on this point! <br /><br />Happy Valentines day by the way! Doesn't Jesus make the best valentine!? <3Shanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01328812376288894935noreply@blogger.com